Anyway, a few all access passes later we're standing backstage before the show. We're drinking beers and what not, when Mike and Trey walk in the room. Now Kraemer is a very tall guy and sticks out like a wookie in any crowd. Trey's acting like a rock star, but Mikes starts talking to some people about Trigonometry or something really weird like that.

Anyway after all this {ten minutes or so}, he walks right up to Kraemer, looks down at his shoes and then up to his giant head and says, "Hey." So Kraemer says, "hey" back, then Mike immediately walks away, mumbling about stairs and how he's gonna go walk up some! This all really happened... no shit.

- Jason Ronk